Math Flückiger already seemed a little nervous at the studio table with Sacha Ruefer. But the longer the interview lasted, the more Flückiger shone through as we know him: determined as an athlete, funny in conversation. Even if his visit to the leading Swiss sports TV channel wasn't quite as funny as his appearances on www.unsportli.ch 2019 and 2021, he did make a few interesting statements. The only thing he needs to clarify is how to learn to win. I still haven't understood that.